Message Number: FHL4981 | New FHL Archives Search
From: "Sukie Crandall"
Date: 2001-03-14 23:00:00 UTC
Subject: Re: prolapsed rectum please doc help me!
To: ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com

>From the FHL Archives on rectal prolapse which might be the
problem you are seeing

IMPORTANT: another cause of straining is difficulty getting feces
through which can indicate an intestinal blockage BUT can
alternatively indicate inability to pass urine with the large bladder
creating the problem by physically impinging on the colon.

In males with adrenal disease an enlarged prostate from the
hormonal levels being too high is a very serious cause of
inability to pass urine effectively. Have you been checking him
on this score? I think I should include something on that score for
you, too. What is being done for his adrenal disease? Surgery?
Lupron or Suprelorelin with melatonin implant? (If there is also
insulinoma then try oral melatonin first because not all ferrets with
insulinoma seem to do well on melatonin.) Any prostate
meds like Propecia/Proscar?

If he stops urinating that is an emergency situation so have the
emergency care info handy at all times. If you don't then call
your vet's office and ask how emergencies are handled.


http://ferrethealth.org/archive/YG1285

BEGIN QUOTE
From: Bruce Williams, DVM

--- In Ferret-Health-list@y..., Sukie Crandall <sukiecrandall@t...>
wrote:
> First off, I am not a vet but am used to prolapses. How bad is it?
> Is it pink? Red? Purple? Slight in size or large? A bad
prolapse
> needs veterinary care, perhaps even a bit tightening with simple
> purse string stitching or sometimes even more correction. If it is
> red (esp. deep red) or purple, or has not gone back in over with
> moisturizing, or if a lot of tissue is involved I think that you
> should immediately contact your vet and speak directly with your
> veterinary professional. If it is mild (pink, small) try
Preparation
> H. If it doesn't go in with that call your vet.

Good call Sukie. I often put a little cortisone (0.1%) in with the
Preparation H.
>
> Be sure to wet down any food you give the kit to decrease
irritation.

I'm not sure if it will make any difference. Kibble that is chewed
up is probably no harder on the colon than that which is pre-
moistened.


The key to prolapse is curing the diarrhea - the colon is straining
to push out stool with no form - there is nothign to push against.
In this case, the diarrhea is probably stress-related. It is
uncommon that a prolapse could occur as the result of a stressful
episode of only 10 hours in duration, but perhaps there was
subclinical diarrhea earlier, and this was the last straw.

Just to be on the safe side, I'd suggest a couple of fecals to make
sure there are no parasites causing the diarrhea (I tend to doubt
it,but it doesn't hurt to check it out.


With kindest regards,

Bruce H. Williams, DVM
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http://ferrethealth.org/archive/FHL2144

(Aug 2007)

BEGIN QUOTE
Sounds like Bear had a giant bladder if he had
100 mls of urine. A normal bladder will have <10 to
12 mls of urine in it. The next question is does he have
an enlarged prostate, or a prostatic cyst, or a prostatic abscess?
Can your vet palpate anything besides the giant bladder?
As for treatment: Lupron depot every 4 weeks, melatonin
(implant or daily tablets/liquid), Propecia, and an antibiotic
such as Baytril, Zeniquin, or TMPS for 6-8 weeks.
It would be a good thing to drain his bladder frequently
(2 to 3 times a week) to prevent the bladder from being
stretched so much
Hope that helps,
Jerry Murray, DVM
END QUOTE

http://ferrethealth.org/archive/FHL1994
(from July 2007)

Yes, the little guy has adrenal gland disease. The two
elevated hormones on the Tennessee panel confirmed that.
Now from your description he is straining to urinate and
becoming lethargic. Has a fasting glucose been done to
check for insulinoma? Has an urine culture and sensitivity
been done to check for a bladder/prostate infection?
Yes, I would continue with Propecia, Lupron every 4 months
(using the 4 month version), and add an antibiotic such as
Zeniquin, Baytril or TMPS for 6 to 8 weeks if there is a bladder
and prostate infection.
Hope that helps,
Jerry Murray, DVM
END QUOTE

What is he being fed? The food type can contribute to soft
stools which in turn can cause rectal prolapse.

Causes of frank blood, soft stools, or both need to be investigated
(anal sac infection, rectal injury, colitis, coccidia, other parasites,
some gastrointestinal conditions, etc.)

Sukie (not a vet)

Recommended ferret health links:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth/
http://ferrethealth.org/archive/
http://www.afip.org/ferrets/index.html
http://www.miamiferret.org/fhc/
http://www.ferretcongress.org/
http://www.trifl.org/index.shtml
http://homepage.mac.com/sukie/sukiesferretlinks.html



--- In ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com, "Kimba" <kmbrlyk@...> wrote:
>
> My Milo is adrenal and has soft stools/diarrhea off and on. I noticed
> today blood streaks on the floor and on the shelf in the FN cage so I
> went around and checked everyone. It was Milo. He's had soft stools
> again lately so I chalked it up to that. No blood in the poop. I
> figure his little bum bum is irritated so I put some Neosporin on it
> which he promptly did the butt drag and licked it off. Hopefully some
> stayed. Any suggestions? He has a vet visit next Tuesday for another
> Lupron shot. Thanks in advance.
>
> Kim
>




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