From:
Mike Janke
Date: 2001-04-09 20:58:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Devil's Claw
I do believe that Glenn ordered his from the same place I ordered
mine, and it IS Devil's CLUB Supreme, not Devil's Claw.
Mike
--- In Ferret-Health-list@y..., "tansy" <Tansy@p...> wrote:
>
>
> Friends of the Ferret,
>
> Jackie DeCarlo wrote
>
> "[Tansy] <snip> .just like
> the Devil's club, I know several people who have used it with
great
> success and there will be others that have not..........."
>
> I am the one that Mike Janke spoke of, in the same thread. My
Chuki got
> one dose of devil's claw and I spent the rest of the day watching
him
> constantly, with the Karo syrup out and ready. That's how badly it
affected
> him. He was fine the following day. Even the first dose was with
some
> reluctance, because it contains alcohol, known to lower the
blood/sugar
> level. Searching the internet turned up the following:
>
> Devil's Claw produces a hypoglycemic effect in rats and mice.
>
> Devil's Claw is listed on herbal/diabetic sites as being
effective in
> lowering the B/S level.
>
> But what of the "success" stories? I don't know. Well documented
> instances of being able to eliminate, or even reduce the need for
pred,
> with established pred-dependent insulinomic ferrets ( along with a
record
> of routine B/S tests), would be a start, and I' haven't seen one,
so far.
> [Tansy] Ok folks, here is one problem....Devil's Claw and Devil's
Club are
> NOT the same herb! You need to be very careful with this kind of
thing. I am
> one of the people who has been able to take insulinomic ferrets off
> prednisone by using Devils CLUB. ANd I mix it with a little meat
and warm
> water to remove the alcohol. I do not have records of actual
changes in
> blood sugar levels since I don't have a gulcometer, but Diane at
Last Chance
> Ferret Rescue may. But, the important thing with herbs as well as
> prescription medicines you need to make sure you are using the
RIGHT thing.