From:
moreferrets@home.com
Date: 2001-04-12 10:17:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Diazoxide and Mineral oil questions
--- In Ferret-Health-list@y..., "Mike Janke" <mjanke@m...> wrote:
> Mineral oil is basically worthless when it comes to helping to move
> an obstruction along. It's absorbed and does not coat the object
> like Laxatone or Vaseline. I don't know anything about horses or
the
> purpose of mineral oil use in them.
>
> As for the Diazoxide... I won't bore you with the mathematics,
unless
> you really want to see how I arrived at this, but if you're
actually
> giving 2.27mg BID (which seems unusual as that is a very tiny (and
> odd) amount) and assuming you're using standard Proglycem at
50mg/ml
> and at $25 per month, you're paying $8.33 per ml. The rest of us,
> even with an average of $120 per 30ml bottle of Proglycem, pay
$4.00
> per ml! Most give a lot more than 2.27mg (5-10 times more), hence
> the large monthly cost.
>
> I hope you misplaced a decimal point in your post and you're not
> really paying $8.33 per ml for Diazoxide. Pred, by the way, costs
me
> about 35 cents per ml.
>
> Mike
>
chiming in with my $.02 (ha)...
pedia pred is about $27 per four ounce bottle in these parts. i use
the generic of proglycem, diazoxide, which is compounded for me by
only one pharmacy in florida (the only one doc and i could find back
in the day...perhaps others would offer the compounding these
days...but since this pharmacy was SO FRIENDLY and A+ i never looked
any further). while i don't have the bottle in front of me and
therefore can't give as good of a cost breakdown as mike did, i will
tell you that i paid $55 recently for enough to last two critters two
months at moderate to high dose (can't recall that off the top of my
head either...i know there was enough for .2 cc bid for both
critters). can you do the math, mike? ;) anyway, i've always heard
that $130 is the monthly cost for proglycem, which is why doc and i
endeavored to find an alternative back in the day (i had 4 in need at
the time). doc did some informal comparison testing with critters on
the proglycem and critters on the generic diazoxide and found no
difference; unlike with the pedia-pred/generic...both my vets have
definately found a difference between those two.
>
> --- In Ferret-Health-list@y..., "Kim" <dagger4u@h...> wrote:
> > I posted earlier about using mineral oil for partial
obstructions.
> I
> > am curious if this is ok to use. We use it in horses and it
works
> > great. (obviously if nothing happens within 24 hours, a trip to
> the
> > vet is in order) however, if my ferret ate something (a food) and
> it's
> > stuck a bit, won't mineral oil help as well as laxatone? (this
is
> for
> > future use, my ferrets are fine. I am just trying to be prepared
> for
> > the worst)
> >
> > I am wondering about this whole Diazoxide issue. I have an
> > insulionmic ferret. She was on Pred and it helped alittle, but I
> had
> > to constantly feed her every time I gave her that med and her
> glucose
> > could only get to 65. I changed to Diazoxide and not only did she
> > improve, it is cheaper than Pred. YES, that's right, cheaper. I
> have
> > a great pharmacist. She is on 2.27 mg BID (twice daily) and he
> gives
> > me a 2 month supply for $51.00. He knows she will be on this for
a
> > long time. I guess I am wondering why i keep hearing how
expensive
> > this medication is. To me, $25 a month isn't bad at all!! Now, I
> live
> > in Olympia WA (outside Seattle) and I just wanted to let people
> know I
> > am paying that much for it and maybe people can ask their
> pharmacist's
> > why it's so expensive for them, when I can get it for cheap
> (cheaper
> > than Pred at that!) Mostly I just want people to be able to have
> this
> > information. I hope someone finds it helpful.
> >
> > Kim and her furry band of 9