From:
Angela Stephenson
Date: 2001-05-13 23:11:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Triaminic and ACETOMINOPHEN
I am thinking she is alot older than they said she was, her
teeth are transparent and her canines have the tiniest strip
of white in the middle, I always thought she acted older than
my other ferrets, and the vets said she is healthy but did not
say anything about her looking older than a year and a half.
I just am wondering how old she is now.
----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Purcell, DVM
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 3:21 PM
To: Ferret-Health-list@yahoogroups.com
Angela,
You wrote:
> I have a ferret that I bought February of last year and
she was supposedly =
> 6 months old at the time, I bought her at a pet store,
well I noticed as ti=
> me went on that she is blind but her eyes look alright.
Just today I notice=
> d that she is forming a catarac in one of her eyes, is
this normal? Should =
Cataracts in any animal less than 1 year of age are
abnormal -
please see a vet soon.
-Dr. Karen
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From: "Stephanie" <steph@t...>
Thanks, everyone, for all your help. The day after I wrote the group she
opened her eye and seemed fine. Icabod had a couple of loose staples so I
made an appointment with the vet and planned to take her too, but she has
been fine ever since. I think she had something in her eye and it just came
out. Icabod had 4 staples replaced and when they did a blood draw his BG was
98. Does anybody have the numbers for a "normal" fasting BG reading?
Thanks again,
Stephanie
with Maggie, Bullwinkle, Shasta, Emeline and Icabod
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From: "Angela Stephenson" <louweasal@h...>
I am thinking she is alot older than they said she was, her teeth are
transparent and her canines have the tiniest strip of white in the middle, I
always thought she acted older than my other ferrets, and the vets said she
is healthy but did not say anything about her looking older than a year and
a half. I just am wondering how old she is now.
----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Purcell, DVM
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 3:21 PM
To: Ferret-Health-list@yahoogroups.com
Angela,
You wrote:
> I have a ferret that I bought February of last year and she was supposedly
=
> 6 months old at the time, I bought her at a pet store, well I noticed as
ti=
> me went on that she is blind but her eyes look alright. Just today I
notice=
> d that she is forming a catarac in one of her eyes, is this normal? Should
=
Cataracts in any animal less than 1 year of age are abnormal -
please see a vet soon.
-Dr. Karen
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Hi Kathy,
Actually Pheylpropanolamine (PPA) was the nasal
decongestion medication that was taking off the market
by the FDA. Sudafed (AKA pseudoepherine hydrochloride)
is the only one still on the market!
Please be careful if you give over the counter medications
to your ferrets. A lot of the allergy medications have a nasal
decongestion medication (pseudoephedrine) and/or a head
ache medication (tylenol/actetaminophen or ibuprofen) in them.
Tylenol can be fatal to ferrets (and cats)! Please only use plain
Benadryl without anything in it (just plain diphenhydramine).
Chlor-trimeton is another antihistamine, but again you want the
one without anything else (just plain chlorpheniramine) in it.
Yes, as Katherine pointed out some ferrets will suffer from
seasonal allergies (spring and fall) just like people with
allergies do.
Plain Benadryl can be used for ferrets with allergies. Again make
sure it is just plain Benadryl and not a combination product. Like
wise if you are giving Benadryl before vaccines, make sure it is
the
plain benadryl.
Hope that clears up the confusion,
Jerry Murray, DVM
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FHL post 3519
From: "Bruce Williams, DVM" <williams@e...>
--- In Ferret-Health-list@y..., "Dianna Saenz" <diobrn@s...> wrote:
It was my own fault and
> should have asked exactly before I ever gave it to him, it seems
that he
> passed from overdose of the acetominphen in the triminic
because it
is toxic
> in increased levels.
Dear Dianna:
I am sorry for your loss. Not all Triaminic products have
acetaminophen in them, but apparently the one that you have,
does.
Many people wonder why I don't generally prescribe medications
for ferrets with influenza or other mild upper respiratory
infections, and unfortunately, this is the exact reason why.
Tylenol (acetominophen) is a very toxic drug in ferrets. Any
product containing acetominophen is not suitable for animals,
and we don't even use this product in my household for the
humans. This drug is exclusively metabolized by the liver, and
even a small amount generally overwhelms the liver's abililty to
detoxify it. Once that is breached then the breakdown products of
this drug bind to proteins in the liver cells, rapidly killing the cells,
and sending the animals spiraling into liver failure.
In humans, it has a very low level of toxicity, and I am constantly
amazed at widespread usage. Normal doses have been known
to cause liver damage in persons who take tylenol with alcohol,
and a dosage of only 5-6 times normal may result in death in
children. It is a commonly abused substance in suicide attempts
by children and teens.
Bu the key is that in animals, it is a killer. While this is indeed
a tragedy, I am hopeful that others may learn from your
misfortune, and will think twice about giving any human
medications to their pets without a veterinarian's advice.
On a side note, the liver failure occuring with acetominophen is
rapid, fulminant and deadly. When clinical signs appear, the
chances of a pet surviving is minimal. In the case of this type of
Triaminic, it appears that ANY dosage, 3 ccs or not, would likely
have been fatal.
With kindest regards,
Bruce H. Williams, DVM, DACVP
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Original post:
--- In Ferret-Health-list@y..., Francine Prager <franjohn@w...>
wrote:
> Has anyone tried Children's Tylenol liquid to ease a stuffy and
runny
> nose in ferrets? My ferret caught my cold and his vet suggested
we try
> about 3-4 drops, 2 times daily, of the Tylenol.
>
> May I have some input from other vets and ferret owners
please.
> Many thanks.
> Francine Prager