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From: Stephanie
Date: 2001-09-07 15:57:00 UTC
Subject: [Ferret-Health-list] Re: ECE?

Hi All,

Well, it's looking like it is ECE as Shasta has now come down
with it. So, my question now is, is Flagyl good for this?
Since my vet started Bullwinkle on the Flagyl it has been a
real struggle to give it to him. He foams at the mouth, bites
and cries. Last night I just couldn't bear to force it on him,
so he didn't get it. He hates the Amoxy, but doesn't react in
such a severe way.

Finally, my 7+ year old Maggie has not shown any signs yet.
She has come in contact with the play area and had sniffed
through the bars at the others. How long before we would know
if she has caught it? We have her separated in the back
portion of the house, and so far she and her poops look great.
Do MF ferrets get exposed to ECE as kits or something? Maggie
is a MF while Bullwinkle and Shasta are not. If she doesn't
come down with it, should we keep her separated for 6 months
or at this point, since we are all in the same house, figure
that she had been exposed while a kit?

Thanks for all the help,
Stephanie
with Maggie, Bullwinkle, Shasta, Apollo and Caliccio
missing with all my heart Icabod and Emeline
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Janke [mailto:mjanke@miamiferret.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 4:37 PM
To: Ferret-Health-list@yahoogroups.com


I would say that the shelter should know whether they are
ECE free or
not. Ferrets can be carriers of ECE for six months, perhaps
as long
as a year. They can look (and be) healthy and still be
carrying the
virus and the ability to pass it on.

"New ferret + 48 hours + current ferrets get diarrhea"
usually means
ECE, but it's entirely possible it's just a coincidence and
the
timing is such that it just sounds like an ECE infection.

mike

--- In Ferret-Health-list@y..., "Stephanie" wrote:
> Thanks Mike,
>
> I just spoke with the shelter that I adopted from and they
have not
had ECE.
> They had these guys a while before I got them and none of
their
other
> fuzzies are showing any symptoms, nor are the two that I
brought
home. I
> have separated my 7+ ferret Maggie to the back portion of
the
house. She has
> not been in contact with anybody, but has roamed in the
same areas
that they
> play in. I realize that even being separated, it is pretty
sure she
will get
> it also. I did notice the smell, but thought it was spray
since
Bullwinkle
> is not de-scented and it smelled exactly like that. My vet
wanted
to start
> with this regimen and has us keeping an eye on them.
>
> Is it possible that only my guys are reacting to this when
the
other shelter
> ferrets are fine?
>
> Thanks for the help,
> Stephanie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Janke [mailto:mjanke@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:15 PM
> To: Ferret-Health-list@y...
> Subject: [Ferret-Health-list] Re: ECE?
>
>
> Explosive diarrhea 48 hours after the introduction of
new ferrets
> sounds like classic ECE symptoms. There is no test for
it, though
> there is a researcher out there that can examine a stool
sample
and
> determine if the virus is present. Only Dr. Williams
would be
able
> to tell if you if this could be done and where to send a
sample.
I
> don't think you need that level of diagnosis to know
what you
have.
>
> If your vet has ruled out all other possibilities, then
it's a
pretty
> sure bet it's ECE. In that case, be prepared for an
extended
period
> of supportive care for Bullwinkle. Even if he's willing
to eat
his
> kibble, he should be on a bland, easily digestible diet
for now.
>
> ECE poop does not always look the same from every
ferret.
Sometimes
> it's bright green, but just as often it can be yellowish
and
bubbly,
> liquid and slightly green or mostly mucus. There are
probably
other
> variations too. The odor is usually really, really
nasty.
>
> mike



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