From:
caffiened@hotmail.com
Date: 2001-11-22 07:45:00 UTC
Subject: Re: Help with upset tummy, diarrhea, vomiting? + new test
results
Happy Thanksgiving!
We got the rest of the test results back yesterday. (see below)
He seemed to be starting to get a little better. I had been giving
him 1/8 pepcid 2x day. Yesterday morning he even slurped that up out
of the bowl all by himself (hasn't happened in a month). Then he ate
his food real well...and threw it all up.
I was able to get several small meals into him, then the vet called.
He said the creatine (kidney?) levels were a little high, but that
BUN usually went up at the same time with kidney problems and the
white blood count was a little high. He also said the PH was high,
probably due to eating too much plant products, but all he has had in
the last month or so is chicken baby food, nutri-cal, pet-tinic, and
pedialyte?
We gave him subQ fluids yesterday, and he threw up on the way home.
We didn't notice any improvement. He ate some at night, but not very
willingly.
I asked the vet about ulcers & heliobacter, he said he didn't think
so. (but didn't say why) He gave us more flagyl and suggested we add
milk thistle to his soup.
How long does Flagyl take to have an effect? He seemed to get worse
about eating immediately after we started the flagyl, and gradually
get better after we ran out of flagyl and started giving him pepcid.
Would it be ok to keep giving him pepcid with the flagyl? For just-
in-case it is an ulcer? Would the pepcid help his body recover?
Do any of the test results clearly say that there is no ulcer and no
heliobacter?
I think our vet isn't used to people asking lots of questions. He
doesn't seem thrilled about it. (but I'm NOT going to stop!)
Here are the rest of the test results.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts, suggestions, and help!
Geriatric/Weak Ferret Profile
Complete Blood Count
Hemoglobin - 13.8
Hemocrit - 40.3% (L)
WBC - 7.7
RBC - 7.85
MCV - 51
MCH - 17.6
MCHC - 34.2
Platelet Est - Adequate
NRBC - 2
Remarks - Manual Differential Performed
Absolute Polys - 3696 (48%)
Absolute Bands - 231 (3%)
Absolute Lymphs - 2156 (28%)
Absolute Monos - 693 (9%)
Absolute Eos - 924 (12%)
Absolute Basos - 0 (0%)
Mamalian Comprehensive Chemistries
Glucose - 136 (H)
Urea Nitrogen - 23
Creatine - 1.6 (H)
Total Protein - 5.4 (L)
Albumin - 3.0
Bilirubin, Total - 0.2
Alkaline Phosphatase - 57 (H)
ALT(SGPT) - 395 (H)
AST(SGOT) - 82
Cholesterol - 223
Calcium - 8.3
Phosphorous - 4.7
Sodium - QNS
Potassium - QNS
Chloride - QNS
Globulin - 2.4 (L)
CPK - 552
Thanks, again, for all your help!
--- In Ferret-Health-list@y..., "Val erie" <caffiened@h...> wrote:
> Hi!
> We're hoping you can help us out. Any ideas, thoughts,
suggestions, etc.
> will be appreciated!
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Woogie, our furry little friend (1 of 4) started getting a little
lethargic
> and started losing a little weight a little over a month ago.
> We didn't do anything, just kept a closer eye on him.
> One evening, I found him throwing up. We put him in isolation (a
whole room
> to himself) and started feeding him chicken baby food with nutrical.
> He grinds his teeth in between eating, paws at his mouth and has
diarrhea
> and sometimes seedy stools.
> We kept feeding him chicken baby food, and he started putting his
weight
> back on, but still has the upset tummy, nausea, and diahrrea.
> He seemed to be getting better, grinding less and less, until he
could eat
> 1/2 jar of baby food without grinding. The next day he didn't want
to eat
> at all. I did manage to get some into him. The next few days he
ate, but
> with much grinding.
>
> We took him to the vet for tests & an xray. (our vet is helpful,
but has
> very little ferret experience)
> The xray didn't show anything unusual.
> The vet prescribed 5 days of Flagyl, which he has finished. It
seems to be
> harder to get him to eat now.
>
> Other tests only showed that he had elevated liver levels (could be
because
> hadn't been eating well?) and elevated glucose (but could be
attributed to
> stress at vet?)
>
> Our vet is trying to consult with the testing company for more
ideas. (This
> is from a hard to read fax, so some of it may be mis-spelled)
>
> Here's what we have so far.
> Insulin - 1.2(L) aIU/mL
> Glucose - 136(H) 80-120
> PH - 7.0
> Specific Gravity - 1.030
> Appearance - Clear
> Color - Yellow
> Protein - 1+
> Glucose - Trace
> Ketone - Neg
> Bilirubin - 1+
> Blood - Neg
> Orobilinogen - Normal
> WBC - 1-3
> RBC - None
> Bacteria - None
> Epithelia - Rare
> Epithelia, Renal - None
> Epithelia, Transitional - None
> Triple Phos Crystals - None
> Amorphous Phosphates - None
> Calcium Phos Crystals - None
> Calcium Carbonate Crystals - None
> Amonium Biurate Crystals - None
> Amorphous Orate - None
> Calcium Oxalate Crystals - None
> Uric Acid Crystals - None
> Mucous - None
> Budding Yeast - None
> Sperm - None
> Oval Fat Body - None
>
> Thanks, again, for any help!
>
>
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