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From: Yvon358@aol.com
Date: 2002-07-05 13:59:50 UTC
Subject: Re: [ferrethealth] bilateral adrenal questions
To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
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In a message dated 7/4/02 5:48:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
caitlynmaire@earthlink.net writes:

> I am not a vet, but I've seen an Addisonian Crisis. It is terribly
> scary, and potentially fatal *very* quickly. Why do you want to take
> away the florinef? For bilateral adrenal ferrets lifelong treatment
> with florinef and prednisone is the norm. Don't tinker with your
> ferrets electrolytes, and certainly not without your vet there every
> step of the way. IMHO, you would be endangering their lives,
>
>

Eeeks.... I hope you don't think I would ever endanger the lives of my
ferrets!!! I have never been the best at expressing myself; consistently
putting my foot in my mouth. In my goal to keep things short and sweet, I've
apparently left the wrong impression.

Maybe I should have worded my question this way -- "Why keep a ferret
medicated if it is not necessary?" My vet has stated although he has removed
both glands, ectopic tissue may remain. This had me curious. It has been
stated on this list, if enough adrenal tissue remained, the ferret could live
w/out meds as long as the electrolytes were under control. This is why I
wanted to know if the Florinef gave false readings. In other words, how
would I know, w/out taking away the Florinef, if enough tissue remained to
keep the ferret healthy? As Dr. Williams responded, there really is no way
to tell unless you take away the Florinef and watch to see if they become
Addisonian. Of course, this is NOT an option. I would only want to take
them off Florinef if it were being administered unnecessarily. As you noted,
health concerns should always be referred to a vet. This was merely a "what
if" question to gain knowledge as a pet owner and a hopeful opportunity to
remove them from life-long meds if they didn't need them.

You mentioned Prednisone. Neither of my bilateral ferrets are on Prednisone.
I looked up the records; both ferrets had the 2nd adrenal removed in May of
2001 and are the picture of health. What does the Prednisone do? If they've
been healthy for over a year with just Florinef do I really need to add it to
their regimen?

I hope I've answered your question. If not, feel free to write to me
personally. Thanks for your response and concern.

-Y-
yvon358@aol.com

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<HTML>In a message dated 7/4/02 5:48:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, caitlynmaire@earthlink.net writes: 
 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I am not a vet, but I've seen an Addisonian Crisis.  It is terribly 
scary, and potentially fatal *very* quickly.  Why do you want to take 
away the florinef?  For bilateral adrenal ferrets lifelong treatment 
with florinef and prednisone is the norm.  Don't tinker with your 
ferrets electrolytes, and certainly not without your vet there every 
step of the way.  IMHO, you would be endangering their lives, 
 
</BLOCKQUOTE> 
 
Eeeks.... I hope you don't think I would ever endanger the lives of my ferrets!!!  I have never been the best at expressing myself; consistently putting my foot in my mouth.  In my goal to keep things short and sweet, I've apparently left the wrong impression.  
 
Maybe I should have worded my question this way -- "Why keep a ferret medicated if it is not necessary?"  My vet has stated although he has removed both glands, ectopic tissue may remain.  This had me curious.  It has been stated on this list, if enough adrenal tissue remained, the ferret could live w/out meds as long as the electrolytes were under control.  This is why I wanted to know if the Florinef gave false readings.  In other words, how would I know, w/out taking away the Florinef, if enough tissue remained to keep the ferret healthy?  As Dr. Williams responded, there really is no way to tell unless you take away the Florinef and watch to see if they become Addisonian.  Of course, this is NOT an option.  I would only want to take them off Florinef if it were being administered unnecessarily.  As you noted, health concerns should always be referred to a vet.  This was merely a "what if" question to gain knowledge as a pet owner and a hopeful opportunity to remove them from life-long meds if they didn't need them. 
 
You mentioned Prednisone.  Neither of my bilateral ferrets are on Prednisone.  I looked up the records; both ferrets had the 2nd adrenal removed in May of 2001 and are the picture of health.  What does the Prednisone do?  If they've been healthy for over a year with just Florinef do I really need to add it to their regimen?    
 
I hope I've answered your question.  If not, feel free to write to me personally.  Thanks for your response and concern. 
 
-Y- 
yvon358@aol.com</HTML>

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