From:
"Sue Liszewski"
Date: 2003-12-31 06:34:40 UTC
Subject: RE: [ferrethealth] Re: Diabetes and vaccinations
To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
Message-ID: <Law12-F48lQJT7mg4dd0000f01a@hotmail.com>
What type of insulin are you using? I have put them under with gas only
premedicate with antibiotics and keep it to a minumum. if the mass is
getting bigger and bothering her it might be worth getting it off. If she
is a good ferret see if it is possible to try with local anesthetic. I did
this with an old ferret I worked with for years that had 3 types of cancer
including mast cell. She had a madd that started to grow on her underside
in the mammary area and she would scratch it and bite it etc. I removed it
while the owner waited with local anesthesia and some treats for
distraction. The owners were very concerned that she would chew or pick at
the incision and open the sutures
I told them it would be impossible to bandage her due to the location and an
e collar would not work, I said let's see what happens. She did great, just
getting it off made her feel so much better. If it bother;s her and she
scratches and stuff, it could be adding stress to her system which may also
be causes her blood sugar to go up. It is hard enough to control a diabetic
and causes of dysregulation are any concurrent endocrine disease, or
hormonal disease, so be sure these have been rule out (adrenal being the
most likely in ferrets), stress and infection are a couple of other causes,
and if it stesses her to get so many blood sugar levels then it may make
things worse. And the last point about diabeetes is diet, b e sure you are
doing it right.
I agree about not giving vaccines with a concurrent uncontrolled medical
condition, just be sure of your county regulations on Rabies and be sure you
are convered with those laws. Best of Luck hope this helps a bit.
Dr. Sue
>From: TR1212@aol.com
>Reply-To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
>To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
>Subject: [ferrethealth] Re: Diabetes and vaccinations
>Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:42:14 EST
>
>Dear Friends,
>I have a little girl who has diabetes that is very hard to control. I check
>her and she's at 395, I give her 1/2 unit insulin and she'll be OK for 6
>hours. The next time I check her she can be at 395, I give her 1/2 unit and
>she'll
>go down to 20 within a few hours and stay lower for 12 hours. I can check
>her
>again, she'll be at 395, I give her 1/2 unit and shell be Ok for 5 hours.
>Although she's all over the place, I've got it pretty much under control, I
>just
>check her often and do what's needed accordingly. Now, she's due for her
>yearly
>shots. Do I need to do anything differently than I normally do? Can the
>diabetes cause a worse reaction? I always space her vacs apart and wait a
>couple
>hours at the vets. Also, she has a growth on her leg that the vet believes
>may
>be a mass cell tumor. She didn't want to do anythng to it unless our little
>one
>has some other life threatening condition that would require her to be put
>down. I'm concerned because this tumor has gotten much bigger. Has anyone
>had
>any experience with putting a diabetic kid under? I'm making an appointment
>today for vacs and to talk about the tumor again but wanted to hear from
>you
>first. I am going to suggest to our vet that if she doesn't want to do it
>she refer
>us to the U of GA. At least for a consultation. Is there any advantage in
>going to the U? I know our vet is concerned about putting her under because
>her
>diabetes is totally unpredictable and all over the place. We've been
>tracking
>her and dealing with it at home and the vets since May.
>Thank you in advance for any info you can provide.
>Most sincerely,
>Tiffany, Slinky and Cindy
>
>
>
>
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