From:
fuglemat@online.no
Date: 2004-09-16 21:30:47 UTC
Subject: Smartgroups having some problems. Avoid rejections. Administrative
To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
Message-ID: <7955404.1095342529732.JavaMail.root@thallium.smartgroups.com>
A former Norwegian fur farm used to produce and feed their carnivores (among those ferrets) a food they called Norwegian Polar. They claim the food resulted in healthy animals with good looking fur and less stools. Now they're selling the food as fresh, high quality dog food. I was wondering if you think this is ok to give to ferrets?:
>From their web page: "Made from veterinary controlled slaughter-house products, maw, throats, lungs, liver, meat cuts and fat, from cattle, sheep and pig, also added corn, vitamins and minerals"
Nutrients list:
90% animal products, 9% corn
protein 12% (30% dried)
fat 18% (45% dried)
carbohydrates 9%
energy per 100 g 220 kcal
vitamins added per kg:
wet: dried:
A 6330 IE 15825
D 650 IE 1625
E 65 mg 162
B1(Thiamin) 36 mg 90
B2(Riboflavin) 4,0 mg 10
Niacin 4,66 mg 11,65
Pantoten acid 5,33 mg 13,33
B6(Pyridoxin) 6,0 mg 15
Folic acid 0,3 mg 0,75
Biotin 0,043 mg 0,107
B12 0,023 mg 0,0575
Minerals ash about 2% (dried 5%):
Calcium (Ca)
Phosphor (P)
(Ca/P = 1.2)
Magnesium (Mg)
Natrium (Na)
Iron (Fe)
Mangan (Mn)
Zinc (Zn)
Copper (Cu)
Iodine (I)
Selenium (Se)
The food is sold in frozen blocks.
Now, it seems to me that this would result in really fat ferrets, but they're actually feeding this to dogs, who need less fat than ferrets do. And, it seems, with good results.
To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com,
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From: sukie crandall <sukiec@optonline.net>
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Smartgroups is having some problems right now.
Often at such times we lose moderation functions. In such cases, since
we can't spend extra time cleaning up failures to follow the rules we
have to reject a lot of posts. (It is always hoped that members be
kind enough to all -- including the moderators who otherwise wind up
with a lot of avoidable extra work -- to follow the rules, anyway.
(Notice, too, that we don't worry about vets having long quotes
specifically because they are vets, but no one else should fail to
reduce the amount quoted to be less than whatever they write
themselves.) This is the single most commonly ignored rules and adds a
lot to the moderation workload.
If we lose moderation functions or those become too slow there will be
a number of rejections which could have easily been avoided by the
posting members.
Here are the rules to remind everyone:
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