From:
Linda Iroff
Date: 2004-09-16 21:30:47 UTC
Subject: Smartgroups having some problems. Avoid rejections. Administrative
To: Ferret Health List <ferrethealth@smartgroups.com>
Cc: Sukie Crandall <sukie@mac.com>
Message-id: <A88506D5-0827-11D9-BBFA-000A95DA8BEE@oberlin.edu>
My vet wrote this at my request. First background: Andi is 3.5 spayed
female. She has been healthy until very recently. About 2 months ago,
she started showing slight adrenal symptoms (some loss of fur on tail
and knuckles). Five weeks ago, she had her annual distemper shot and
thorough exam including abdominal palpatation with no problems found.
She was given a melatonin implant 2 weeks ago. About that time I
noticed she was not as active as normal.
Over the last week she was getting much worse, with lack of appetite,
weight loss and enlarged abdomen. She had surgery yesterday and a mass
was found that could not be removed. Here is what my vet says:
"A large amount of serosanguinous fluid (approx 50cc) with fibrinous
tags was removed and sent for analysis. The greater omentum adjacent to
her stomach was very edematous. We found a 2cm round, firm mass in the
wall of her stomach near the fundus. The mass had numerous cavitations
and caseated material palpable and visualized in the area cut for
biopsy. the left adrenal appeared very slightly enlarged. All other
organs appeared grossly normal. We checked the right adrenal, liver,
pancreas, kidneys, intestines and mesenteric node. Recovery was routine
and we are waiting for pathology reports."
Andi is currently on 1mg prednisolone twice a day, and 25mg amoxy twice
a day.
Any comments or suggestions for treatment are greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
Linda Iroff
International Ferret Congress
http://www.ferretcongress.org
To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com,
ferrethealth-owner <ferrethealth-owner@smartgroups.com>
From: sukie crandall <sukiec@optonline.net>
Note
Message-id: <ACBC570E-0827-11D9-837C-000A95CD182C@optonline.net>
Smartgroups is having some problems right now.
Often at such times we lose moderation functions. In such cases, since
we can't spend extra time cleaning up failures to follow the rules we
have to reject a lot of posts. (It is always hoped that members be
kind enough to all -- including the moderators who otherwise wind up
with a lot of avoidable extra work -- to follow the rules, anyway.
(Notice, too, that we don't worry about vets having long quotes
specifically because they are vets, but no one else should fail to
reduce the amount quoted to be less than whatever they write
themselves.) This is the single most commonly ignored rules and adds a
lot to the moderation workload.
If we lose moderation functions or those become too slow there will be
a number of rejections which could have easily been avoided by the
posting members.
Here are the rules to remind everyone:
http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/ferrethealth/fhl_rules.txt
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