Message Number: SG11314 | New FHL Archives SearchFrom: sukie crandall
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 14:24:02 -0500
To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
Subject: RE: LYSOL "SPRAY"
Message-id: <EB39EC46-2DCD-11D9-9C26-000A95CD182C@optonline.net>
Ferrets should never be around any cleansers while the cleansers are =
wet. All cleansers should be rinsed away very well and dried. They =
should never be allowed into any powdered cleansers.
When in doubt about any household product it is better to spend the =
money to ask the ASPCA veterinarians who specialize in poisoning issues =
than to just assume that something is safe. Since they work on a =
case-by-case basis perhaps it would be possible for someone who wants =
to provide this gift for ferrets and can do so right now to compile a =
list of cleansers, see which vet ther you are using and post as =
something along the lines of "Dr. so-and-so at the ASPCA APCC has this =
to say about the following cleansers..."
Since ASPCA APCC is a resource in that type of situation rather than a =
case under treatment that vet's (or vets' if more than one get =
involved) name could be mentioned under the rules.
Poison control:
http://www.napcc.aspca.org/ ASPCA National Poison Control Center
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=3Dapcc (alternative link to =
=
above site)
>The ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center is the premier animal-oriented =
poison >control center in North America. So it's the best resource for =
any animal poison->related emergency, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. =
Make the call that can make >all the difference: (888) 426-4435.=A0
>A $50 consultation fee may be applied to credit card.
We personally tend to stick to known safe things like vinegar and =
baking soda, or even shampoo and lots of elbow grease.
If someone is willing to compile a list and see if the that resource =
will then help put together guidelines (even give them time and let the =
experts at the ASPCA APCC respond by e-mail to ease their work and your =
work). If someone comes forward and is willing to do that then those =
who are curious about specific products should, please, send those =
names or categories to that poster DIRECTLY. Please, do not post them =
for that specific purpose; the lists will become too hard for member =
vets to wade through if it gets clogged up that way. If a volunteer =
who is willing to put in the time and cost comes forward hopefully that =
person will put his or her address(es) right in that post, but even if =
someone doesn't you can always select the person's name at the website =
for a direct mail, or copy and paste the address from the digest or =
individual mails. Hopefully, this type of preventative use will be =
acceptable to the vet experts at ASPCA APCC and someone here will have =
a chance to pursue this.
BTW, it may be that the experts there will prefer to list specific =
compounds to avoid. That is every bit as workable! In that situation =
DO remember that similar sounding compounds might be safe. There are =
regularly times when people assume that similar sounding compounds =
carry the same risks but that is not a valid assumption.
Some resources:
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=3Dapcc_press
http://www.aspca.org/site/News2? =
page=3DNewsArticle&id=3D16054&security=3D2220&news_iv_ctrl=3D1101
http://www.aspca.org/site/News2? =
page=3DNewsArticle&id=3D12486&security=3D2143&news_iv_ctrl=3D1101
Here is a good one (Using the "more" link for each brings up a lot.)
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=3Dapcc_toxpublications
If someone doesn't have the $50 to spare but can devote a bit of time, =
please, write down the common ingredients of a number of cleansers and =
look in the toxicology articles in the resources listed in that last =
URL above.
If you don't have a lot of time but are interested in a few of the =
cleaning products mentioned, write down the exact name of their =
compounds and then look in these publications for articles about those =
exact compounds and write a post to share any such relevant URLs (web =
addresses which you can select, copy, and paste onto a mail you are =
sending).
Another thing people can do is to look up the products with their =
manufacturers or by using Google or another search engine. A number of =
these will not be for related species such as this example of useless =
things to mention here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? =
cmd=3DRetrieve&db=3DPubMed&list_uids=3D4845834&dopt=3DAbstract
which is about a case of renal and pancreatic damage (in what species?) =
from liquid Lysol -- but lacks an abstract so for all I know it may =
have been swallowed -- so note the particulars when possible and avoid =
articles like this one which don't get us anywhere.
The good thing about that is that it is in a real journal rather than =
just something someone said without having true proof of cause. The =
bad things are that the species may be very unrelated and the details =
are missing.
You get the idea. Not all resources are equal. So Google on combos =
like
Lysol poisoning
or if I recall one compound in Lysol right (AND I MAY BE WRONG SO CHECK =
ME)
cresol poisoning
or whatever other cleansers and compounds you are curious about and dig =
into them looking for resources which appear to be highly applicable-- =
especially ones for members of Carnivora which appeared in veterinary =
journals and other well reviewed places.
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