From:
"Sue Liszewski"
Date: 2004-01-07 18:37:02 UTC
Subject: Re: [ferrethealth] Re: Diabetes and vaccinations
To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
Message-ID: <Law12-F481zRL25AExg00002fda@hotmail.com>
It is true there are a type of defense cell called a Mast cell. These cells
can affect certain areas of the body in like allergic reactions etc. But
those that are more of the tumor get large and there is always a potential
for reoccurance. In dogs and cats it is a nasty tumor that you can spread
if you don't constantly use fresh clean instruments. I believe the ones
that tend to regress are more ass't with allergic type reactions. These
cells when they degranulate get very itch painful and have been shown to
cause anaphylactic shock in animals. I have lost cats to this type of thing
just shaving hair around them that caused degranulation. We have lost dogs
post op with minimal tissue damage from a degranulation. They can be in
internal organs that cause sever vomiting or on the skin and the bad ones
get large and look ulcerative.
If ferrets however they behave differently, and we can see some of the tings
you describe, with out the severe reactions we see in other individuals. It
can be very confusing but the technicalities are what make it so, how it
behaves in different species, where it is located, etc. Other basal cell
tumors are still tumors but benign and sometimes even regress.
It all depends on who you discuss this with oncologist vs dermatologist,
they are speaking of different forms of Mast cell classes and problems.
I don't know if this helps or I confused you more, but I hope now.
Dr. Sue
>From: Ferret Wise Shelter <ferretwise@ferretwise.org>
>Reply-To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
>To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
>Subject: Re: [ferrethealth] Re: Diabetes and vaccinations
>Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:06:59 -0500
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>Hello Dr Sue,
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>I am quite confused with your fbelow stated post.
>How do we explain mast cells (rather large, bloody & ugly ) which
>completely heal up and go away?
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>I have had several older ferrets with underlying health problems which
>exhibited the same type of outbreaks -- once administered immune system
>boosters and treatment for underlying health problems the mast cell
>problems cleared up completely. The ferrets lived 2 years or more w/o
>recurrence.
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>We have removed other ( BASIL CELL, ETC.) tumors but after several cases
>as stated above we now look for the cause of underlying health concerns and
>no longer surgically remove the mast cell outbreaks. In a veterinary
>nutrition seminar last Spring they equated the mast cells with a histamine
>release action within the body -- and explained they provided a way for the
>body to release the toxins ---???
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> In our cases this seemed to prove correct- even though our experiences
>were retrospective to the seminar.
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>Alicia D, rehab tech
>www.ferretwise.org
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>At 12:42 AM 12/31/03, you wrote:
>>Just a note. The Mast cell tumor is MALIGNANT, it just is not metastatic.
>>They typically do not spread to other organsm and usu resolve well with
>>complete removal from the site they are located it. But technically it is
>>a
>>malignancy, it just behaves differently in ferrets then other animals.
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>>Dr. Sue
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