From:
"Sue Liszewski"
Date: 2004-05-28 16:53:55 UTC
Subject: RE: [ferrethealth] Vets please take notice----Cody's pain when he pees
To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
Message-ID: <BAY15-F36O6hm8Ua8d90000abf8@hotmail.com>
How is his prostate? has he tried anything like Metacam or Rimadyl for
pain, discomfort or inflammation, what about prednisolone (not the prior 2
not to be given if on pred)? I agree there is probably more going on. If
you can't be sure get a second opinion. I did not see what he saw in
surgery so have no clue there. With his weakness etc. it would be a
concern. Have him recheck his heart, feel his abdomen for pain and if he
can't locate a cause manage his pain. What was the adrenal status, could he
have an enlarged prostate that is causing all the problems and if so you can
try to medically manage it for now to avoid another surgery that he may not
survive. just some thoughts but remember we are not there, are not seeing
what your vet saw, so we don't have a complete picture. I feel if you thing
there is something wrong, then there is, and he is not reassuring you so
work on that and if you still are not comfortable get another opinion.
There is nothing wrong with that and it does not mean your vet has done
anything wrong, it is just that you want to be sure and if that is what it
takes, then do it. Hope this helps a bit, but I don't have enought info to
help in any other way.
Dr. Sue
>From: "Lynn Mac Farlane" <gypsi@atlantic.net>
>Reply-To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
>To: "Ferret Health List" <ferrethealth@smartgroups.com>
>Subject: [ferrethealth] Vets please take notice----Cody's pain when he pees
>Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:04:56 -0400
>
>while back I wrote in about Cody's very enlarged spleen & the pain he was
>in. He did have it removed & came through the surgery better than the vet
>thought he would. In fact he said later that he didn't really expect to
>him
>to come through the surgery. One of the things that we thought was caused
>by the spleen being so large was that Cody cried in his sleep, & when he
>peed. It was thought that because his spleen was so big & pressing on his
>other organs, that was causing pain when he moved & peed. Well his crying
>didn't stop, not when he is sleeping, & especially when he pees.
>
>The vet said that I shouldn't expect his recovery to be the same as any
>other ferret having the spleen removed because he had to do so much inside
>of him that his healing time would take a lot longer, weeks in fact. Well
>2
>weeks after his surgery I don't expect him to still be crying. His surgery
>was actually on May 11th. He is more lethargic now than before he had the
>spleen removed. He seems to be weak in the hind end, wobbly on his feet.
>When he is out of his cage, he often won't go in the litter box, & when he
>pees he isn't holding himself up over it. Naturally as a result he gets
>himself full of pee. The only thing I could think of was that maybe he had
>crystals or stones in his urine, which was causing pain. I used a syringe
>to get some off the floor & sent it to the vet to be checked. The techs
>said that it was normal, nothing in it. The vet said to give him 14 more
>days & if he hasn't improved to bring him back in. I don't think he will
>last 14 more days & even if he does why he should he have 14 more days of
>pain?
>
>The thing is that his pain has not stopped, it seems to be the same now as
>it was before his surgery. In these weeks something should have gotten
>better & now he seems weaker. He isn't getting better he is getting worse.
>I believe the vet thinks that I am being an overly protective, worrisome
>mom
>& that all is going normally with Cody in his recovery. I don't know what
>else to do for Cody. I don't know what else would make him cry especially
>when he pees & why he isn't holding himself up over it. He held himself up
>better when he had that overly enlarged spleen.
>
>What can be causing him to have so much pain that he cries when he pees &
>also when he is sleeping. He seldom lays on his tummy & stays mostly on
>his
>back. There have been days that when I put him in his cage he has stayed
>exactly where I laid down for hours. He has even stayed there & peed all
>over the bedding & laid in it. He has never done this before, something is
>wrong & I don't know what to do to get the vet to find out what. I could
>go
>storming in there demanding that he do something, but have no idea what he
>should be looking for so hoping that at least one or more of the
>veterinarians will be able to advise me as to what to ask Cody's doctor to
>check for. Has anyone else had this happen to their ferrets or ferrets
>that
>you vets have seen? Do you think it is normal recovery, especially since
>he
>seems worse to me. I am around him 24/7 so now how he is. I know he isn't
>getting better but worse. It is very hard to be here & listen to him moan
>&
>cry & not be able to help him.
>
>Lynn & Clan War Weasels
>
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