From:
"Sue Liszewski"
Date: 2004-07-03 02:18:40 UTC
Subject: RE: [ferrethealth] Re: Oppinion on Bi-Odor by Marshall
To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
Message-ID: <BAY15-F103EBufYuAtf00022239@hotmail.com>
If you take the time to use the ph strips check the ferret's urine too that
has been getting it. I would be interested to know what some measure that
are not on the supplement and those that are. Also remember in that list of
ingredients, the baking soda was part of the list that said may or may not
contain so it is not in it all the time.
Dr. Sue
>From: sukiec@optonline.net
>Reply-To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
>To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
>Subject: [ferrethealth] Re: Oppinion on Bi-Odor by Marshall
>Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 23:39:08 +0100 (BST)
>
> > Sukie is phenylamine safe for everyone? I mean can ferrets have
> > something like humans as to where its not safe?
>
>
>Oh, gosh. Honestly, I don't know.
>
>This stuff is so beyond me.
>
>Also, these days, while we wait to hear what type of bladder stone was
>found I am learning a lot I never knew (Isn't there always more and more
>that isn't known and needs to be learned?). I've heard from people who had
>ferrets with all sorts of bladder stones (some of that stuff posted here,
>but I sure would love it if others also posted the info send privately
>which they can share. Like one of the people who wrote to us we might be
>facing stones from too much protein in the diet. We don't know, yet, but
>that person did have a ferret with that. I've also heard from a friend vet
>who I don't think is on the FHL mention that she also had that concern.
>For me that was an entirely new concept just a few days ago. It's still
>sinking in. I mean, we kept thinking "Ferrets, Obligate Carnivores, High
>Protein in Natural Diet of Wild Relatives" but it looks like actually it is
>possible for it to be too much for domestics, or maybe for some individuals
>among our companions. Live and learn...
>
>So, I guess what I am saying is that *I THINK* that generally it's been
>thought that amino acids are going to be safe if there aren't manufacturing
>or storage errors or if things are not given way out of balance, BUT life
>has its surprises (though surprises usually are more rare which is why they
>are surprises in the first place).
>
>The other questions you posed I also ask those who know more than I to
>answer. Then I'll get to learn, too.
>
>Baking soda ALONE will make the drinking more alkaline (I tested some
>against our drinking water -- which now has its pH lowering to 6.9,
>slightly below neutral for a change) but I don't know if the the Bi-Odor
>will change the pH of the drinking water because other ingedients might
>move it more into the acidic realm. At a pet store the Wardley Junior
>aquarium pH kit cost us 2 or 3 dollars so it wouldn't hurt for someone with
>some Biodor to get that and test the pH of the water before and after
>putting in the Biodor to see if there is a difference and how much in which
>direction. easy and cheap to buy and incredibly easy to use...
>
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