From:
Sukie Crandall
Date: 2005-04-07 19:04:31 UTC
Subject: Re: Doseage of Selamectin
To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
Message-id: <831d295700cca46d5427e6048dadba64@mac.com>
This is a fine time to point out that the bold print on the home page
of our site links to a site of its own: the FHL Complete Archives
which contain over 4 years of information. (How long have we been
doing this anyway? Is it just over 4 years or just over 5? Time flies
when too busy...)
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org
is where the Complete FHL Archives reside and they have have a TREASURE
TROVE of information.
Check these out! They should provide what you need:
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=SG5781
Pfizer's study of effective dosing of Revolution in ferrets
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=SG9831
Getting the full benefit of Revolution
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=YG1169
(on caution in the use of the product when it was new in use here and
on ferrets in case a report -- taken with a grain of salt according to
poster -- had basis)
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=YG1184
Be SURE to read the part at the very bottom where the report of serious
adverse is discussed including:
> Now the analysis of this post at first blush reveals a tremendous
>tragedy, but as is so often the case, no definitive evidence that
> this product is the cause of these animals death. (Deb, if you are
>out there, I'd live to hear more, as I know this post was sent to the
> FML shortly after the animal's death). There is also no listing of
> the dosage in these animals. Unfortunately, I was unable to come up
> with any followup posts listing UMiss's results from the tox screen.
> Why ten days to two weeks - that seems a bit odd for a toxicity -
>usually toxicity from avermectin compounds are seen within 24 hours.
> Perhaps there were extenuating circumstances which resulted in a
>delayed reaction, but all of the other posts on the FML and the FHL
>do not suggest any reactions at all. As an unbiased observer, I am
> at this point hesitant to say that it is harmful to ferrets without
>any more definitive evidence (but that's how pathologists work - we
> are ever-cynical.
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=YG1393
also part of the early discussion
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=YG3054
ditto
Now HERE is more recent info on these parasite control products (15
months ago):
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=SG7520
Notice the details on safety that were learned over time on even just
this aspect.
Now I will do little searching on related topics:
An older post which discusses multiple treatment options and what they
are for:
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=YG1516
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=YG1520
placement
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=YG1689
licking
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=YG1715
which are absorbed and which are not
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=YG1894
and
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=YG3740
and
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=SG6676
ear mite options and dosing
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=YG7181
Revolution
(and for more heartworm info also see the newest vet additions to
http://www.miamiferret.org/fhc)
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=YG9188
sarcoptes and demodex mites
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=YG12126
preventing ticks
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=SG9136
how to dose to prevent fleas from being resistant to Avantage
http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/browse.php?msg=SG9762
heartworm larval stages timing and meds
Anyway, you get the idea. There are hundreds of posts there on
treating and preventing such parasites, and would guess there have to
be over 50 of them from vets with useful information AND discussing and
even investigating reports of down sides. I am SURE that there are
posts which give added information beyond what these posts give.
I have heard of skin irritation with at least one of these products,
but that would be an individual problem and like any med a person has
to adjust actions for individual variations.
--Sukie
P.S. a quick hint when asking a question: it is most effective to NOT
direct a post to one person or one category (for example "vets" or
"pharmacists" or "shelter keepers"). In fact, the rules ask that
members please not do so, and main reason that rule is written that way
is to help the person asking the question. It was not one of the
original rules, but then we noticed that a very large percentage of
posts using that technique were getting no replies at all! That led to
frustration among those posters. If a post happened to be targeted to
one person and the person was away at a conference (something which can
affect multiple vets at once), or ill, or had a broken computer, or
weather knocked out communication in a region, or the person simply
happened to be too busy to be on, or the person was tired and preferred
not being singled out then a reply wouldn't happen. Meanwhile, other
people who HAD THE ANSWER would not reply because until they got used
to how things work here they would feel that replying would be stepping
on the targeted volunteer's toes. (Everyone here is a volunteers who
makes contributions to help us all.)