From:
"Sue Liszewski"
Date: 2006-09-07 23:23:24 UTC
Subject: RE: [ferrethealth] RE: Ketamine (offshoot topic from Pre-euthanasia - Telazol or Torb?)
To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
Ketamine is a disociative anesthetic and its effects could be not full
anesthesia when used alone. I don't believe those in veterinary medicine
use it by itself we usu use a benzodiazopine with it which helps ease it
out. Telazol has this combination but a different dissociative and
benzodiazapine. It is veterinary exclusive. Ketamine is also used in
humans, esp in pediatrics not sure if they use it in combination or not.
Ketamine is also one of the more recent designer drugs and that is when they
made it a contolled agent and it is often stolen from vet clinics. I can't
imagine the affect from it is that great but then again I don't use drugs in
that manner. This drug is also absorbed readily thru mucous membranes so
can be given by mouth too.
Don't know it that helps you or not. I don't use these drugs in ferrets
EXCEPT in cases of euthanasia, I use gas only for that plus or minus pain
meds depending on what is done. All the best.
Dr. Sue
>From: sukiec@optonline.net
>Reply-To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
>To: ferrethealth@smartgroups.com
>Subject: [ferrethealth] RE: Ketamine (offshoot topic from Pre-euthanasia -
>Telazol or Torb?)
>Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 23:52:16 +0100 (BST)
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>A very different question, and with a ferret who is then getting a mercy
>shot it would not apply, but, since ketamine was brought up, is there any
>reason to think that ketamine when used as an anesthesia might cause scary
>hallucinations in ferrets when they again waken? I've read that
>possibility has been considered for bears (but not what was decided, if
>anything), and I know we had to be very careful with the chimps decades ago
>because it was known that can happen with humans once they are beyond a
>certain age, so we stopped using it when one about four year old chimp had
>a major fright after its use. (Three of us traded him off, alternately
>comforting him until he'd bite badly enough for another to take him until
>he finally calmed down which can't have been as long as it felt to me, so
>having seen what he went through I'd hate anything to frighten a ferret as
>badly as Maynard was frightened.)
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>I have read that there can be a kidney health consideration with Ketamine
>in ferrets. Again, that would not matter a a way to soothe a ferret into a
>mercy shot...
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