From:
"Sukie Crandall"
Date: 2007-08-09 04:52:13 UTC
Subject: [ferrethealth] Re: Adrenal,.prostate,urination problems
To: ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com
Did the vet save any of the sludge to test?
If not, then take the urine pH and also check for infection.
Be sure to measure the specific gravity to see how well he is
concentrating urine in case he took any kidney damage.
Some ferrets get infections secondary to adrenal disease and
certainly males with adrenal disease get prostate disease and
need meds
If surgery is not possible here is a related past post and part
of it goes into how to treat:
http://ferrethealth.org/archive/FHL2144
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To: ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com
Hi Maureen,
Sounds like Bear had a giant bladder if he had
100 mls of urine. A normal bladder will have <10 to
12 mls of urine in it. The next question is does he have
an enlarged prostate, or a prostatic cyst, or a prostatic abscess?
Can your vet palpate anything besides the giant bladder?
As for treatment: Lupron depot every 4 weeks, melatonin
(implant or daily tablets/liquid), Propecia, and an antibiotic
such as Baytril, Zeniquin, or TMPS for 6-8 weeks.
It would be a good thing to drain his bladder frequently
(2 to 3 times a week) to prevent the bladder from being
stretched so much
Hope that helps,
Jerry Murray, DVM
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If the urine is alkaline then struvite uroliths (stones) are possible.
Those ferrets need less plant matter in the diet and a urine acidifier.
If the urine is acidic then cystine stones are possible. These ferrets
need to be on a reduced protein diet no higher than 35% protein to
reduce the critical C.O.L.A. grouping of amino acids which can
cause the precipitation of cystine. Those amino acids are Cystine,
Ornithine, Lysine, and Arginine. On a rare basis they need medical
approaches, too, and those are discussed in past posts in the FHL
Archives:
http://ferrethealth.org/archive/
Calcium Oxalate stones are also among the types more often seen
and if ferrets are like humans then oxalate is the problem, not
calcium. If I recall right infection also can cause these.
There are more rare types, too.
If a ferret can not fully empty the bladder, for example if there is
a type of abnormality called a bladder diverticulum left from the
fetal tube to the outside not having disappeared completely so a
punch remains those, too, will allow minerals to precipitate out.
Bailey may be having the remaining adrenal kick up, or may be
forming stones, or have retained ones that are just coming out
now, or some combo. Some people who have taken in ferrets
from that recent very large rescue have found that they had
struvite stones or sludge that had been retained for a while.
--- In ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com, JJ <myferrets18@...> wrote:
>
> I will make this as short as possible,as you know weird stuff happens to these little
guys,maybe you have some insight?
> ************
> Sat late we noticed Bailey (who was adrenal) was laying weird not moving.Soon he got
up and was pushing trying to pee.Nothing.Tried again Nothing.
> My husband felt how hard his tummy was ,so off to the emerg hospital he went.
> She cathedrized him and said there was grit and stuff in there,she flushed and flushed
him,next day we took him to our vet as a emergency cuz he stopped eating and drinking.
> The vet cathedrized him and said there was all kinds of sludge in there.he proceeded
to do a emerg.adrenal surgery (he was due for the surgery the next day).
> Ok here it is Bailey has been there a week now.
> The vet said he's had to put a cathader(sp) in him,he flushed,flushed ,flushed and
flushed Bailey because of the sludge stuff,he said it was bad enough to block a human...
> He cannot figure out what the stuff is.
> Bailey is coming home tomorrow,noone will be at the vet Sunday.
> Has anyone experienced this? He thinks it was from the adrenal tumor he took out,but
the sludge is being produced somewhere!!
>
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