Message Number: YPG1404 | New FHL Archives Search
From: "Sukie Crandall"
Date: 2007-03-02 17:13:17 UTC
Subject: [ferrethealth] Re: Black Lung
To: ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com

I wonder if JL could cause changes in the thoracic cavity which
could create enough lung displacement to cause lung torsion?

*****What symptoms did this ferret have?*****

http://www.jaaha.org/cgi/content/abstract/37/2/128

More cases in pugs of spontaneous lung torsion:

BEGIN QUOTE

Clinical signs associated with these two cases included increased
weakness, increased respiratory effort, tachypnea, acute collapse,
lethargy, anorexia, and cyanosis.
...
spontaneous lung lobe torsion in pugs occurs and should be a
differential diagnosis for pugs with increased respiratory effort,
tachypnea, nonproductive cough, acute collapse, cyanosis, and lethargy.
Surgical excision may be curative.

END QUOTE

Cyanosis means the dogs were turning blue.

Tachypnea is rapid, shallow breathing like you also will see with heat
stroke or severe pain.

This describes how it looks on x-ray:
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16396263&query_hl=1&itool=
pubmed_docsum>

In other lung torsion articles I ran in long term severe asthma mentioned
in a cat but the article wasn't accessible so I could not check that.
Mycobacterium kansasii is mentioned here:
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=11991412&query_hl=1&itool=
pubmed_docsum>

Again, that would not explain the fattiness mentioned, but I just wanted
to learn a little more on the topic of lung torsion even though it has not been
found in ferrets so far according to the literature.

If imposed fats are possible, I have read in a news release in the past (a year
ago? two years?) of human infants whose parents gave them oil thinking it
would ease coughing symptoms by coating the throat (There is a nutritional
anthropology inclination to do this in some cultures but it is not a good idea.)
but the babies inhaled the oil and wound up in horribly serious lung trouble
as a result.

(Was the kit already coughing and were oils or other liquid fats given while
coughing at the pet store or home, or otherwise inhaled? I only ask in case
you already know because it is a far-flung scenario and doesn't really even
fit your description, so there is no real reason to actually ask the people
that question if you don't already know because it is grasping at straws.)

Along those lines a new study in horses did not find a benefit from giving
certain fatty acids to horses with lung problems:
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=17193883&query_hl=7&itool=
pubmed_docsum>

Please, do share the report findings from this most unusual case so that
everyone can learn.


Sukie (not a vet)
Current FHL address:
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http://www.miamiferret.org/fhc/
http://www.ferretcongress.org/
http://www.trifl.org/index.shtml
http://homepage.mac.com/sukie/sukiesferretlinks.html



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