From:
"Sukie Crandall"
Date: 2008-05-25 19:44:05 UTC
Subject: [ferrethealth] Re: Hard to diagnose whats wrong any suggestions
To: ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com
Re: Hard to diagnose whats wrong any suggestions
Well, among the possibilities (but not all of the possibilities)
are:
tension (but it does not sound like that to me)
coccidia (and for that the fecals would need to be checked
around 5 sequential days during the diarrhea till found
and BOTH genera of coccidia that ferrets get would need
to be looked for, not just the one cat and dog vets most
often look for
http://ferrethealth.org/archive/YPG590
http://ferrethealth.org/archive/SG17634
http://ferrethealth.org/archive/YPG616
ECE
Like you I think that the coronavirus ECE is a strong possibility
here. It fits very, very well.
Here is where you and your vet can start learning:
http://www.afip.org/consultation/vetpath/ferrets/ECE/ECE.html
and check vet posts in the separate FHL Archives
http://ferrethealth.org/archive/
To know ferrets a vet has to know common ferret health topics
such as ECE; if not then with a situation in which dehydration and
worse can happen it might pay to check other regional vets for a
visit or check with vets for consultations with your own vet so that
your vet has a better chance to learn and knows where to turn in
the future:
http://ferrethealth.org/vets/
--- In ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com, "lmwade55" <lmwade55@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry this is so long...
>
> I need some advice =85quickly please?!
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> Here is what has happened to my ferret - Buddy
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> He is a really sweet boy, 2yrs old always happy and bouncy, never
> bites. He was needing new ferret company as he was by himself ( I got
> him 3mths ago from a lady who'd had him since a baby). Last Monday
> buddy and I went to a ferret rescue place to see how he would react to
> her ferrets. The lady was knowledgeable, kind and very helpful and let
> him bounce round her house with her most placid ferret to see how
> buddy reacted he was a good boy with all 3 he met but she didn't have
> any that were single going by themselves just pairs So on Tuesday 20th
> May we talked with her friend who runs another rescue division not far
> away, she had a small 2yr castrated boy who we went to see on Tue. At
> this ladies house my ferret played with another 4 ferrets and we took
> home the one he hugged and licked and played with like a ferret
> possessed! She had had all the ferrets for over 5 weeks and she said
> all were tip-top healthy (same for the ladies house on Monday)
>
> All good so far, Wed 21st May the two ferrets Buddy & Olly spent the
> first hour running and playing tag all over the house lots of
> `dooking' and much bouncing. Wed afternoon I notice buddy has bad poos
> slightly light yellowy tan colour and a bit runny, not too bad. By
> late afternoon he wanted to go to bed rather than play with his new
> pal who was trying to bounce on his head to rouse him. So I put him to
> bed and separated them for a while.
>
> Thursday 22nd May morning buddy was not standing up waiting to be let
> out as normal but he was listless and bit lethargic. I got him out and
> he went to his littler tray where he did a very large poo, well when I
> say poo it was just pile of pale yellowy/transparent mucus with small
> bits of veiny blood in?! So I rang the vet and we were there by
> 8:50am. He was given 3 injections 1) antibiotic 2) pain
> killer/anti-inflammatory 3) fluids. During the day he wasn't allowed
> to eat until late afternoon and I just had to give him 5ml of
> electrolyte fluids very hour or so which he readily drank warm from a
> syringe.
> On Thur evening he at very small amounts of chicken. Late on Thur eve
> and Friday23rd morning he had bright green slimy poos and the other
> ferret started to get slightly runny light tan coloured poos! So back
> we went to the vet who wanted to see both ferrets. He felt they were
> well hydrated and said not to worry about the green poos it was better
> than the mucus and blood ones. The vet said it was likely to be a type
> of colitis. I was concerned about ECE but he said don't get too
> worried about that (plus he wasn't sure what it was!, buddy is the
> only ferret registered at that surgery for as long as he can remember!).
> Both ferrets were to have half a tablet (pink Synulox Antibiotic) the
> little ferret `Olly' eats this no problem in anything but not Buddy he
> wanted to eat nothing! Not even chicken, scrambled egg, chicken stock
> soaked biscuits, few drops of ferretone, organic chicken baby food,
> nothing, normally he'd eat any of these! So he was not having the
> antibiotics he should have. His poo all of Friday then ranged from
> bright green, watery to slimy bubbly yellow and very watery no popery
> little snake poos at all since Wednesday.
> Into Saturday 24th May and this morning I had to go back to the vets
> to change the antibiotics to a white liquid =96 Synulox 0.4ml twice per
> day. I have to scruff him and force this one down he hates it! Still
> not interested in food he's eating about 6 warm water soaked biscuits
> and about 3 small pieces of ham & chicken. He seems very hungry and is
> eager to get to the bowl as I put it on the floor but he just cant
> seem to eat? (James well beloved). So now I'm getting worried I don't
> think I should Google anymore symptoms as it makes me more worried as
> his symptoms are a good match for Epizootic Catarrhal Enteritis or
> some for the dreaded Insulinoma! as quite often he just seems to be
> sitting staring (but he doesn't have any other symptoms but a bit of
> weight loss =96 he was castrated 7 weeks ago though? So they are the
> only matching symptoms), but I have only had him 3 months from a lady
> so I don't know if that's just what he does?! Before the diarrhoea
> started he was a very happy bouncy, crazy turbo ferret who had a good
> appetite and weight a nice 1.75kg.
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> So if you can give me any advice as to what to do from these symptoms
> below, how to make him eat, etc I would be extremely grateful as my
> vet doesn't seem 100% sure!=20
> And I'm getting quite worried about my lovely wee boy right now?
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> Wed am - happy bouncy ferret
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> Wed pm =96 not so bouncy poos went a but runny
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> Thur am - Mucus with blood (to vets jabbed)
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> Thur pm green /yellow slimy (started antibiotics & probiotics for both
> ferrets =96 4 days antibiotics & 10 day probiotics)
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> Fri am =96 back to vets with Olly who has slight light tan soft poos.
> bit bouncy played with Olly with bouts of lethargy not really eating
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> Fri pm =96 Running bubbly yellow poo, not eating much, still occasionally
> paying with pal for very short bursts
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> Sat am =96 Not eating really, but drinking ok when given (antibiotic
> changed to liquid =96 does not like this either have to force it in!)
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> Sat pm =96 Yellow very runny grainy looking poo. Very quite, bounced a
> few times with Olly but wants to take himself to bed, really only
> interested in a few biscuits and teeny bit of chicken. Making him eat
> and drink. He is hungry but can't seem to eat.
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> Help?!!
> Laura ;-(
>
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