From:
"Sukie Crandall"
Date: 2008-07-07 16:06:35 UTC
Subject: [ferrethealth] Re: Salmonella
To: ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com
CORRECTION:
Ah, later in
the second text in this paragraph the author (an FHL member vet) also
mentions encountering S. lavana and S. muenchen, which also says "
Treatment: Must be by the precise use of the specified antibiotic so that
the carrier states can be eliminated plus the attention to replacement
fluid balance by use of i.v. catheters or s.c injections." (pages 194-195)
--- In ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com, "Sukie Crandall" <sukie@...> wrote:
>
> --- In ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com, "maevemoped" <angela@> wrote:
> >
> > I have a ferret who has symptomatically been diagnosed by a vet with
> > Salmonella. He has been quaranteened and is improving. However, I read
> > that he is now a carrier for the bacteria. How long after he seems well
> > should he be quaranteened for?
> >
>
> Sorry you have run into that. From what I have read it is usually fought
> off, but when it isn't then it can be very hard to treat. It sounds like you
> have been listening to your vet, and looking in resources. I strongly
> respect that approach.
>
> So far, in the vet texts I have I have not seen a time frame for you. One
> emphasized trying to grow a culture and do antibiotic challenges, though,
> because some strains are resistant to certain antibiotics. Maybe the results
> of such a challenge might help. Okay, it could because _Biology and Diseases
> of the Ferret, 2nd ed_ after emphasizing the importance of trying to figure
> out which serotype the Salmonella strain is and which antibiotics work
> best on it says on page 342:
> "The improper selection and use of an antibiotic will limit the success of
> clinical treatment and may also increase the amount, duration, and
> antibiotic resistance pattern of shedding Salmonella organisms"
>
> I don't know if this will help or if more have been added to the list since but
> _Ferrets, Rabbits, and Rodents, Clinical Medicine and Surgery, 2nd ed_
> says that these serotypes of Salmonella have been found in ferrets:
> S. typhimurium, S. hadar, S. kentucky, and S. enteritidis. _Ferret Husbandry,
> Medicine and Surgery, 2nd ed_ also lists these strains among ferrets:
> S. newport and S. choleraesuis. The first text in this paragraph
> also says that most rodents and ferrets can be asymptomatic reservoirs
> for salmonella, transmitted by fecal-oral route, fomites, and aerosol
> through conjunctiva in some species. They advice the same things that
> are advised for having reptiles such as loads of hand washing.
Ah, later in
the second text in this paragraph the author (an FHL member vet) also
mentions encountering S. lavana and S. muenchen, which also says "
Treatment: Must be by the precise use of the specified antibiotic so that
the carrier states can be eliminated plus the attention to replacement
fluid balance by use of i.v. catheters or s.c injections." (pages 194-195)
Replaces:
Ah, later in
> the second text in this paragraph the author (an FHL member vet) also
> mentions encountering S. lavana and S. muenchen, which also says "
> Treatment: Must be by the precise use of the specified antibiotic so that
> the carrier states can be eliminated plus the attention to the replacement
> of i.v. catheters or s.c injections."
Balance of text:
>
> In looking for you I noticed that the symptoms can look like a combo of
> insulinoma and ulcers (page 341 of _Biology and Diseases of the Ferret_.
> I'd forgotten that and keeping it in mind might help some others at some
> point when they encounter tarry feces and low blood glucose if the first
> possibilities (more likely) don't pan out. That text also says to provide
> electrolytes, so you may want to get something like Kyolyte powder or the
> other options till the ferret is well. Remember that a bottle of the liquid
> needs to be used within two days according to past posters or the
> electrolytes combine and won't help. Freezing cubes of it has been
> suggested, but I don't know if or how well that works, though it might.
>
> Salmonella is killed by cooking, but that's kind of out for feces. ;-)
>
> They are gram negative rod bacteria in the family, Enterobacteriaceae.
> So, if a ferret has an infection with a rod bacterium then salmonella is
> AMONG the types of infections to consider.
>
> So, my IMPRESSION is that the possible length of time the bacteria may
> be present in the ferret(s) will depend on the strain and how well the
> antibiotics used treat that strain, but I could be wrong.
>
> Sorry about not being able to provide more help for you.
>
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