Message Number: FHL10447 | New FHL Archives Search
From: "Amy"
Date: 2009-12-10 14:51:01 UTC
Subject: [ferrethealth] Re: Mornie and Hilbert: Tripronin or Policitra-K or both as a precaution?
To: ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com

Wow, looking at that post brings back some memories.

Are they still eating the lower protein diet, in addition to the baby food? How much baby food are they eating? I'm asking because unless you're feeding them a goodly amount of baby food you could still probably keep the <35% balance.

I wish I could remember which med is which -- one keeps the pH balance good and the other *I think* prevents the stones from forming. Ah, but then I find this:

http://ferrethealth.org/archive/2004/SG9480

Also, I see some web sites showing uses of tiopronin as part of cancer treatment, but I don't have time to check them out.

It probably wouldn't hurt to try them on both drugs, as long as you monitor their bloodwork regularly. I'd definitely do the combination though, since both drugs complemented each other in stopping urolith formation. It would certainly be better, at their ages, to be proactive rather than reactive. See what your vets say obviously but Claudia lived a long time on those meds.

If your vets need my old vet info (he's still practicing) email me off-list.

Amy, Dave, Sarah & Paul (and their gaggle of giggling ferrets)
RIP Ian, Elektra, Claudia, Sidney, Max, Hannah, Fritz, & Fiona
Missing Tasha

--- In ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com, Sukie Crandall <sukiec@...> wrote:
>
> We are picking our own vets' brains, *of course*, but I also want to
> pick
> the brains of others who have experience specifically with cystine
> uroliths.
>
> Both are needing some supplemental baby food with their Prednisolone
> since Mornie began insulinoma just shy of 6 years of age and Hilbert
> began it just days from turning 7 years old, but both have a history
> of cystine uroliths having to be removed.
>
> Might it make sense at some point to add meds? The problem is that
> some of the meds for this can have risk factors. If it might make
> sense would it pay to do some more testing beforehand such as heart
> checks since I seem to recall that one can have heart risks in some
> individuals.
>
> They maintained great from their early years to now on no more than
> 35% protein diets to prevent stones, but now the balancing job has
> changed.




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