From:
Sukie Crandall
Date: 2009-05-26 23:31:19 UTC
Subject: [ferrethealth] online moderatating keeps crashing: Administrative warning of rejections
To: fhl <ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com>
It can take as many a 6 tries to get a post through
when it is being processed online. This has been
worsening for about a week and a half now.
We moderators DO have an email option for
moderation, but to use that we need people to
follow the rules and the law, so no copyright
violations (law), no private messages, be sure to trim
quotes to a bare minimum (or completely remove
quoted lines from past posts to which you are
replying if your reply is clear enough that way)
since leaving a lot of things other people wrote
is the most common cause of extra labor for
moderators, no naming of vets or hospitals in
any post where you also speak about specifics
of a case, no Consumer Reports type posts
or political posts, etc.
The rules were almost all written by vets to
optimize the chances or getting expert help.
With some types of errors -- like not understanding
how medications are measured -- we just remind people,
but others get outright rejections, while still others
cause a lot of the editing that Yahoogroups is currently
making it hard to provide.
Other rules developed through the years as we found
what failed to get replies (such as targeting one person
or one group of people).
The final one is a standard internet list rule that came
from a lawyer who advised Christopher when this list
began.
The Rules are in the Files section as per the joining
materials everyone gets.
When online moderation is partly down we have to send
any rule-breakers back to their authors to rewrite.
Sorry, but that's just reality, and the rules are not hard
to follow.
When online moderation is completely down the posts
that break rules wind up sitting in there till they expire,
but we try to send private notes to the authors to
rewrite.
In case the Files section begins to become inaccessible:
The Ferret Health List Terms of Service
(Originally drafted March 2, 2001, updated August
2003, edited to reflect move to Yahoo Groups Oct 31,
2006)
Listed below are conditions for participation in the Ferret Health
List. By sending messages to "the Ferret Health List" you
explicitly agree to the following conditions:
1) Be kind to one another. No flames. Don't attack a poster.
2) When questioning a particular course of treatment, or asking
about something your vet has suggested, do not mention vet or clinic
by name, just the specifics of the treatment. When questioning
medications, include dosage (place 0 before decimal as in 0.1) and
mg/ml (6.75mg/5ml).
3) Personal messages of sympathy, thanks, and "me too's" should be
sent directly to the poster, not the list.
4) This list is a resource for ferret health related information.
Ferret health includes; medical, behavorial, nutritional, physical
and psychological needs of ferrets. Your veterinarian should be
your first line of defense for safeguarding your ferrets health.
5) Commercial messages and those soliciting donations are not
appropriate. This includes signature lines.
6) Do not direct ferret health questions to a particular individual
or vet on the list. Doing so will decrease your chance of a reply
from others that may have valuable input for your situation.
7) The subject line of your post should reflect the topic.
"Question" or "Sick Ferret" is too vague and will get lost in the
archives. A subject line of "How much Prednisone is too much" or
"Are these symptoms of Adrenal Disease" is more likely to get prompt
responses.
8) Quote as little of the original post as possible. When
responding to someone, quote only enough of the original post to
remind subscribers of what was said. A good rule of thumb: quoted
post should not be longer than the response.
9) This list is not Consumer Reports. Opinions of various ferret
health related practices is allowed. Opinions of specific breeders,
shelters, ferret owners and pet shops is not. Political topics are
not allowed.
10) Only ferret health related photo and file uploads are allowed.
Moderators can move, delete, compress, or otherwise manage photos
and files. Direct readers to your photos and files in a
message to the group.
11) This list is the property of the moderators; anything posted to
it becomes the property of the list and its off-site archives. We
reserve the right to censor posts. We may edit submissions for
length or clarity. This includes, but is not limited to: removing
excessive signatures and quotes, providing appropriate subject
lines, and editing spelling and/or grammar. Submission of material
to the list constitutes permission for electronic distribution on
this or other lists.
12) On-topic cross-posting of your own messages is allowed.
13) If you feel the need to moderate someone on the list, address
your post to the moderators at ferrethealth-owner@yahoogroups.com.
We are the ones who allowed the post to go through.
14) The act of your submitting a post implicitly implies your
certification to us that you own or have release of rights for all
material submitted in the post. You agree to hold harmless and
unconditionally indemnify The Ferret Health List and the list
moderators against and from all liability, costs, expenses, claims
and damages which The Ferret Health List may suffer or become liable
from as a result of posting your submission to the list. This
includes but is not limited to claims of copyright infringement or
actionable defamation. Submission of material to the list
constitutes permission for non-exclusive, perpetual rights for
electronic distribution of your material on this or other lists.
Sukie (not a vet)
Recommended ferret health links:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth/
http://ferrethealth.org/archive/
http://www.afip.org/ferrets/index.html
http://www.miamiferret.org/
http://www.ferrethealth.msu.edu/
http://www.ferretcongress.org/
http://www.trifl.org/index.shtml
http://homepage.mac.com/sukie/sukiesferretlinks.html
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