Message Number: FHL10965 | New FHL Archives Search
From: "sukiedaviscrandall"
Date: 2010-02-18 03:20:03 UTC
Subject: [ferrethealth] Re: Young ferret with bladder control problems.
To: ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com

for a female:

I guess noticing it would depend on if they
went down low enough or if it remained covered
by fur during surgery.

Here is a variation in which urine comes out
wherever it can in the adherent labia section:

<http://books.google.com/books?id=cfUoAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA161&lpg=PA161&dq=%22vulvar+atresia%22+%2Burogenital&source=bl&ots=QL_tFGYATa&sig=SMdDnEXBacABiSEA1Bt2tzczK5w&hl=en&ei=Mq58S6P3LtPQ8QaE99HyBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBIQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=%22vulvar%20atresia%22%20%2Burogenital&f=false>

in which case the labia fuse into a smooth,
flat platform in the fetus and the urine has to
come out wherever it can find an opening.

It does not say what the cause is but that sounds
like the beginning of the fusion which ultimately
forms male genitalia (since early fetuses have female
form and the male urogential form is reshaped from
that foundation) so I would assume that too much
exposure to the hormones male fetuses begin producing
late in or soon after the first trimester (in humans) which
trigger the formation of male characteristics, so perhaps
as a fetus she absorbed a neighboring failed male fetus
(This is called becoming a fetal Chimera.) or perhaps
neighboring male fetuses released too much hormone
into the surrounding fluids.

The opposite may also be possible. Perhaps the individual
is genetically male but the formation of male urogenital
form began but then short-circuited for some reason.

Removing a vulva is tricky to accomplish; blood loss and
complications, not to mention later increases in illnesses
and reproductive difficulties, and often persistent serious
pain lead to many vets not want to remove tumors in
that location.

Sukie (not a vet)

Recommended ferret health links:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth/
http://ferrethealth.org/archive/
http://www.afip.org/ferrets/index.html
http://www.miamiferret.org/
http://www.ferrethealth.msu.edu/
http://www.ferretcongress.org/
http://www.trifl.org/index.shtml
http://homepage.mac.com/sukie/sukiesferretlinks.html
all ferret topics:
http://listserv.ferretmailinglist.org/archives/ferret-search.html
HAPPY: http://www.6footsix.com/my_weblog/2010/01/high-fives-for-happiness.html
"All hail the procrastinators for they shall rule the world tomorrow."
(2010, Steve Crandall)



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