From:
Bluwillow4@aol.com
Date: 2010-06-27 17:47:55 UTC
Subject: [ferrethealth] Devils club for insulinoma
To: ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com
Hi ,
does anyone know of another brand that would replace the Gaia brand of
devils Club? A few years ago I remember reading people were using it for
insulinoma.
Thanks, Debbie
[See the archives on this. There have been
very variable results with this herb, including
some who worsened on it and some with no effect,
but the topic of this herb from the Ginseng family
has not come up for discussion in some time.
BTW, a number of wild ginsengs have been
over-harvested in their native environments
and are at risk for survival as a result, and the
last I heard there is research in upstate NY to
try to develop ways to grow it (but that was some
time ago so they may have succeeded by now).
This makes the third thing recently that has
come up which is used for diabetes but which
some people have tried for insulinoma. The
other two are tryptophan, and
chromium/Brewers Yeast. Chromium is well
known to reduce blood glucose and there are
hundreds of medical articles that come up on
Pubmed. Tryptophan is more complicated. Like
melatonin is appears to be involved in some
opposing pancreatic hormonally driven functions
so it *possibly* could be extremely variable
among individuals depending on personal variations.
See references such as
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17397876
Insulinoma can be very variable among individual
ferrets and no one knows why so I am sure that
the people who have had individual ferrets helped
by such things are speaking the complete truth
BUT it also pays to remember that what works for
diabetes can be very dangerous for many ferrets
with insulinoma -- perhaps for most depending on
the item. That is because nothing "regulates" the
pancreas despite how pop sites word it. Instead
things raise or lower blood sugar. In diabetes the
blood sugar is too high and things that help with
that disorder lower blood sugar, but in insulinoma the
blood sugar is too low so you do not want to reduce
it further. The needs are opposite ones.
What to take from this is that if you choose to try such
items be very, very cautious and never try a large
dose or one that will remain in the animal for the
initial exposures until you know how that individual
ferret responds.
-- Moderator (SDC)]
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