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Date: 2010-07-29 01:32:16 UTC
Subject: [ferrethealth] Digest Number 1941
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Hi Mike
I just wanted to clear up some confusion between Clavamox and amoxicillin.
Clavamox contains amoxicllin (and clavulanate potassium). Bacteria are less
likely to become resistant to Clavamox because of the clavulanate potassium
that ia added to the amoxicillin. If a ferret is allergic or sensitive to Clavamox
it will likely have the same problem with amoxicillin.
Jerry Murray, DVM
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Topics in this digest:
1a. Re: BALD BABY FERRET????
From: Amy Seyler
b. Re: BALD BABY FERRET????
From: jbmccaughey
c. Re: BALD BABY FERRET????
From: Sukie Crandall
2a. Clavamox question
From: Mike
b. Re: Clavamox question
From: Tressie
3a. Re: fur thining on tail - young ferret
From: fret.popper
b. fur thining on tail - young ferret
From: Caitlyn Martin
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a. Re: BALD BABY FERRET????
Posted by: "Amy Seyler" amy.seyler@charter.net amy_seyler
Date: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:08 am ((PDT))
This ferret looks so much younger than 11-12 weeks to me. Is it just me? My kids
ho were that age all were at least twice the size of this one. Just curious how
he age is known for sure.
Amy, Dave, Sarah and Paul
nd their gaggle of giggling ferrets
IP Ian, Elektra, Claudia, Sidney, Max, Hannah, Fritz, Fiona and Felix
issing Tasha
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b. Re: BALD BABY FERRET????
Posted by: "jbmccaughey" JJMcCay@aol.com jbmccaughey
Date: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:14 pm ((PDT))
I thought the same thing, that she was more like 7-8 weeks when I first saw her.
was trying to judge by the size of the hands in the photo, but even with large
ands she only looks about 6 inches long not including the tiny tail. Maybe her
wner could post her actual size?
She reminds me of one of mine that was tiny when we got her and I thought they
old her a week early. But she is still our smallest so maybe Cupcake is just
iny, but maybe underdeveloped for her age as well.
aime
--- In ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com, "Amy Seyler" <amy.seyler@...> wrote:
This ferret looks so much younger than 11-12 weeks to me. Is it just me? My
ids who were that age all were at least twice the size of this one. Just
urious how the age is known for sure.
Amy, Dave, Sarah and Paul
And their gaggle of giggling ferrets
RIP Ian, Elektra, Claudia, Sidney, Max, Hannah, Fritz, Fiona and Felix
Missing Tasha
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c. Re: BALD BABY FERRET????
Posted by: "Sukie Crandall" sukiec@optonline.net
Date: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:23 pm ((PDT))
Trying again because Yahoogroups seems to be eating some posts:
Another vet has replied privately on this
0 week old ferret who is going bald and
uggested that among the thing the
reating vet will look for are:
. hormone toxicity (if anyone in the house has hormone
eds or products)
. adrenal disease may be possible in rare situations
s with an aggressive lymphoma (but the owner said
hat the ferret is otherwise well)
. nutritional issues
. skin issues including fleas, mites, and ringworm
a fungus) and this particular vet said that she has
een ringworm do this is kittens. (and the other
et who replied privately also mentioned ringworm
s a possibility)
Both vets said that the kit definitely needs a veterinary
ork-up.
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a. Clavamox question
Posted by: "Mike" mcapps1@yahoo.com mcapps1
Date: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:12 am ((PDT))
I've seen this with two different ferrets. Once with Sprout and now with
ufassa.
o make a long story short both ferrets recieved a long course of Clavamox.
asically two courses in a row and both appeard to become ill (nauseaous) after
etting a dose of Clavamox (about 15 days of getting Clavamox). I know Clavamox
oesn't last more than 10 days but they were not receiving expired meds, we had
resh meds.
prout as you know had ECE then Cistic Liver Disease. Mufassa had a tooth absess
nd a dental (removed two insicsors and a molar (pre-molar?).
as anyone had ferrets who became nauseated when taking a long course of
lavamox?
'm just curious a 10 day course seems fine but twice now when we went longer
ur ferrets seemd to get ill with the meds
hank you
ike
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b. Re: Clavamox question
Posted by: "Tressie" tressiedu@hotmail.com tressiedook
Date: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:55 pm ((PDT))
Hi Mike,
My vet and I were advised by a well known U.S. ferret GI expert not to give
lavamox to ferrets because it is notorious for causing GI problems. His
ecommendation was a mix of baytril (enrofloxacin) and amoxicillin because it is
etter tolerated and broader spectrum.
That was last year when we were looking at various treatments for my ferret with
osinophilic Granulomatous (EGE). With this expert's guidance she was gradually
eaned off prednisolone, did a month on the baytril/amoxi cocktail and then was
witched over to Imuran from the pred.
This protocol made a huge difference in her behaviour and clinical symptoms.
he was more energetic, war danced for the first time in over a year, played
ith her furpals and did very well until she later developed a heart block,
hich was unrelated to the EGE.
Tressie
--- In ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com, Mike <mcapps1@...> wrote:
.. Has anyone had ferrets who became nauseated when taking a long course of
lavamox?
I'm just curious a 10 day course seems fine but twice now when we went longer
ur ferrets seemd to get ill with the meds
Thank you
Mike
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a. Re: fur thining on tail - young ferret
Posted by: "fret.popper" fret.popper@yahoo.com fret.popper
Date: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:58 pm ((PDT))
Dear Misty,
Instead of worrying get him an implant - Suprelorin 12 if possible.
he advice I had from a leading authority on adrenal problems is 'Every ferret
ught to have an implant'.
Regards,
hristina
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b. fur thining on tail - young ferret
Posted by: "Caitlyn Martin" caitlynmmartin@gmail.com caitlynmaire
Date: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:01 am ((PDT))
Hi, Misty and everyone else,
I agree with what Tressie wrote. It could be adrenal. I remember our
riginal vet (retired for several years now) saying that he was seeing
drenal cases as young as nine months. Over the years I've had a
ouple of ferrets with adrenal disease before the age of two.
That doesn't mean it is adrenal. I also have one ferret who has thin
air on the tail right around coat change time and it always comes
ack full rather quickly. My Adric had blackheads on his tail and
ost hair. It was a skin condition that was easily treated. The best
hing you can do is take your little one to an experienced ferret vet.
If there is doubt the vet can run the Tennessee Panel to test for
levated hormones.
My experience is different than Tressie's in that I've had very good
xperience with adrenal surgery. My Ella had surgery in December,
004 and has had no symptoms since then. She's at least eight years
ld now (rescued March, 2003 as an adult ferret) and doing amazingly
ell. I've had other ferrets over the years where surgery proved
urative. Of course, Deslorelin wasn't available back then and that
oes provide another good option.
Whatever is wrong I do think a vet visit is the essential next step.
All the best,
aity and the terrific trio
lla, Zephyr and Chin Soon
[The TN Panel is best done directly instead of
eing forwarded by another lab (which adds a
ot onto cost). By having your vet send it directly
ou pay for what is done in your appointment, the
quipment used, the syringe disposal, etc. and for
he shipping and testing but not for the middleman.
ee:
ttp://www.vet.utk.edu/diagnostic/endocrinology/index.php
-Moderator]
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