Message Number: FHL12686 | New FHL Archives Search
From: Sukie Crandall
Date: 2011-01-02 19:39:12 UTC
Subject: [ferrethealth] Re: Possible Kidney Problems
To: fhl <ferrethealth@yahoogroups.com>, Ferret Mailing List <ferret-l@LISTSERV.FERRETMAILINGLIST.ORG>

It's easy enough to find lower protein foods (1), or to find out which
regular grocery foods have lower phosphorous levels (2), also to see
past discussions on kidney issues (3), and to find cat foods for
kidney disease (4).

1. Just read the bags. Aim for something around 35% protein levels
if you are reducing phosphorous levels for kidney reasons but do NOT
do it with cheap foods that have a lot of their protein from plant
sources because those can cause urinary tract stones which would
really complicate things though a urine acidifier could be given.
Actually, running that urine pH as is planned will be helpful on the
planning score. High plant protein levels increase the urine pH (too
often increasing it too much), while for individuals who are
genetically prone to cystine stones foods that are high in animal
protein levels can cause those stones to develop by making the urine
too acid for those individuals.

Some merchants also make this info easily available. For example,
here is one adult food:
<http://www.ferretdepot.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=fd&Product_Code=2531&Category_Code=3SheppardGreeneFood
>
and notice that you can click on the blue lettering which mentions the
ingredients list to get to
http://www.ferretdepot.com/sheppardandgreeneingredientlist.html

Now try the trick on other foods and see which other merchants make
that info readily available. I wanted to quickly pull up one that you
could see as an example of how to use that function.

2. <http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000121000000000000000.html>
and others (Search using Google or other search engines.)
Notice that it is harder to reduce phosphorous for animals which get a
lot of protein so prefer the things that are further along in the
charts rather than ones with higher levels in the charts. It can be
done.

3. http://ferrethealth.org/archive/
is easily used. If you need supplementary instructions see the second
section in
http://ferrethealth.org/archive/FHL11552

4. There are multiple cat kidney diets. The chances are that your
vet sells some. This lists some options:
http://www.felinecrf.com/managd.htm

Sukie (not a vet)

Recommended ferret health links:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth/
http://ferrethealth.org/archive/
http://www.afip.org/ferrets/index.html
http://www.miamiferret.org/
http://www.ferrethealth.msu.edu/
http://www.ferretcongress.org/
http://www.trifl.org/index.shtml
http://homepage.mac.com/sukie/sukiesferretlinks.html
all ferret topics:
http://listserv.ferretmailinglist.org/archives/ferret-search.html

"All hail the procrastinators for they shall rule the world tomorrow."
(2010, Steve Crandall)
On change for its own sake: "You can go really fast if you just jump
off the cliff."
(2010, Steve Crandall)






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